Internally, the Browning has a mechanical trigger system, back-bored barrels with lengthened forcing cones, and the Invector-DS internal choke tube system, with Improved Cylinder, Modified, and Full tubes included with the Field model, the same features introduced when the original Model 725 hit the market. That truism may be one of the reasons why the release of a first-ever over/under produced by veteran semiautomatic manufacturer Benelli was greeted with such fanfare. May just be magic beans but reading and listening to the reps the action design is very interesting and the first major divergence from the John Browning friction design. You could do most of this research yourself. It's the OU that folks love to hate, I guess it bucks traditional builds and some folks just aren't receptive to that. Every time I see him, I ask when I can shoot the space gun. Both chokes however would screw into the bottom barrel with absolutely no issue. I doubt anyone would have bet that the most innovative gun of the year would be an over-and-under, but that's what Benelli pulled off with the 828U, earning an Innovator's Award for 2015. in front of their join at the monobloc to a point 2" from the muzzle. When I tried an 828U for real the felt-recoil was more than I'd want on a 100 target round - even on 24grm shells . Thomas Jefferson. Manuals. It swings well, points naturally, and has a classic ribbed target barrel that makes it super easy to draw a bead on fast-moving targets. The swing was beautiful but the recoil destroyed me. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. I flew to another city and had to break down for checked bag as my case cannot fit it assembled. According to Vignaroli, The modularity of the design means that the function of the various subassemblies is almost independent. He added that, Wherever it is needed is strong material; wherever it is not needed is light material. For instance, the aluminum receiver is unstressed, and departs even from other aluminum-receiver shotguns in the sense that its hinge and locking components do not directly bear the brunt of firing stresses. I feel like when I looked at them the longest I could find was a 28, 26" and 28" I believe in the 828uthe field gun. Advertisement Barrel & Receiver The 828U comes with 26, 28, or 30-inch barrels that have three-inch chambers. Thanks, won't be out that way until end of Aug. The length of pull was 14.75 inches. To whatever extent we guessed where they were headed merely validated the instincts of a company that manages to stay one step ahead of the market. Overall, no major complaints were registered regarding the 828Ua testimony to the guns overall design. The company promoted the design as Inertia Drivea form of delayed-blowback operationbut, in a twist of literary serendipity, the ID label came to be synonymous with its corporate identity. I spend a lot of time at gun clubs and I have seen only one and it had 28 inch bbls. Bought one in 26"its 1" shorter than my SP1 was in 28", due to the longer action on the 828. Seems to me most of the guys shooting this gun are hard-core SBE shooters with a well developed sense of loyalty. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Kicked like a mule. She praised the guns appearance, calling it nice and light and adding that it balanced and came to the face well. That the 828U breaks with the tradition of previous over-under shotguns and with all other guns that have come from its family before it is without question. So especially the beginning was really tough for usunderstanding the over-under and its habits and the way the gun moved.. Our conclusion was that the Model 828U system doesnt like light loads not a good thing in a light firearm. Has anyone tried the Performance Shop version? Here are our findings: This is another in a long line of solid, fine-handling over and unders. With birds in the air, we should note we were particularly impressed with the trigger-pull touch-offs of 4.5 pounds for the bottom barrel and 4.25 for the top barrel. Lots of 'creep' and pretty heavynot knowing the formal measurement. With that being said, every gun I have bought I have shot beforehand, so it would be uncharacteristic for me to buy one without trying it, though it is clear there aren't many of these around. We achieved very few hard, solid breaks with either of the two test loads fired at various targets, both close and far, using the Benelli. I.e Beretta, Browning, Ceasar. Again, unlike shotguns of old, which required fitting by an expert and labor-intensive, permanent changes to the stock, the Benelli system is relatively simple to customize by the end user simply by referring to a fitting table in the owners manual. The only reason to buy one is because it says Benelli. Benelli used everything they know about making shotguns simple, easy to carry all day, and reliable, to create their first over-under. Citori. The pen allows you to write on the front of your computer without having to make any adjustments to your computer, it also has a rechargeable battery which can last up to 3 hours, and it also has a light. I'm not sure why I need to get short and rude responses. I don't think he wants to scratch it! You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. In the past I've found that Gunbroker is not a reliable indicator of street price, though I certainly could be wrong on this one. Citing the guns operation as part of the global comfort theme, Vignaroli said the 828Us unique breeching system eliminates the need for a close-tolerance fit at the locking catch, making the gun easy to open. My Franchi over/under experience wasn't very good. Realize, too, that this was legitimate wild-bird hunting among wide-open crop fields and across rolling terrain that was as natural as pheasant habitat gets. Posts: 2,178. I have shot a few of them on Demo days next too several other O/U. The chambers are then machined directly into the monobloc to ensure precise chamber alignment and finish. They each have their strengths. Hardly ever. I have never seen one being shot in person. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Seems like a solid gun if you need a field O/U. Has anyone on this site purchased a Benelli 828 U? I dont try and go fast and never use anything force, more just move the parts. B Britlover Member Feb 19, 2020 #5 I bought one about 3 years ago. We were particularly impressed with the pattern spread, finding a very solid and uniform distribution of hits. But I can't get him to bring it out. Experience with both, shot a 725 Skeet for 12 months and put nearly 20,000 rounds thru it. Rather, the guns strikers are cocked by operating the top-mounted opening lever. They include (l.): a shim kit that offers 40 different combinations of cast and drop adjustment; the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation module that resides within the buttstock; and interchangeable cheekpieces that can be swapped out to provide proper stock-to-face fit. Our Team Said: This shotgun, whose predecessors date back more than 40 years, is a true tribute to the solid, reliable, high-quality Browning over-and-unders on the market today. I bought a Guerini instead with a kinetic balancer and love it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And just for the record my go to gun is a SBE. They usually have a couple under glass for sale. Note the texture in the solid carbon-fiber rib and the recesses for the barrel locking pins that keep the action closed. ozs. I did get an exceptional deal on it. The 828U is a lightweight gunimportant for a long session of upland hunting in which it is likely to be carried much more of the time than it is shotbut it is the distribution of the weight that is key. Texas. She appreciated the buttpad for not hanging up on clothing, liked the matte finish of the carbon-fiber rib and pointed out that the removable breech block would make cleaning easier. Benelli 828U Steel Specifications Chamber: 12- and 20-gauge (2 3/4- and 3-inch) Barrel Length: 26, 28, 30 in. Poor patterns, weak target hits, and uninspiring features all contributed to our low grade for this shooting tool. It is a pen that is also very expensive. Re: street price. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I was in Walker MN this week and Reeds Sports had a few. Also, we fired 2.75-inch Nobel Low Recoil Target loads with 78 ounce of No. Shooters of all ages seem to be fascinated with new toys from names they know particularly if the latest and greatest will help break a few more clays or help fill up the game bag a little quicker. It is designed to provide a stronger, tighter seal, but to our eyes, it looks like something that could be found in a semiautomatic shotgun. I have watched Benelli videos, and have owned several over under shotguns, and have never had any issue like this before. My Browning Citori White Lighting 16 ga. feels just as good in my hands and about the same weight. That is always the answer before buying a new gun. I am not/have not advertised it; but, I'd likely sell it, it is just sitting there unused and unappreciated. The floating breech block us intriguing, as are the re-designed ejectors. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? It tipped the scales at 7.75 pounds and measured 44.75 inches in length, with our team finding no fault in its heft or handling ability. I have no idea what I could be doing to cause this issue. I took "that" gun back to Scheels and showed them the issue and they like me knowing the issues I have had with the two different guns couldn't believe it either. People are not being rude, but they are probably of the opinion that casting rose petals on a pile of dooty will not improve the stench. I actually witnessed the trigger group falling out of the gun during a round of sporting. My daughter can't move the safety lever and it takes me some good pushing. Both inserting and withdrawing shells and spent hulls, even with a gloved hand, is noticeably less difficult than with many other over-unders and a real boon in the field when reloading. Nice guns. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a28dd07b9c52d16 If youve got a computer and a pen, you can probably work with it. When I first got the firearm it became stuck in the cracked open position not able to come apart or even be closed. Thanks Sera- I appreciate the opinion. Defiantly not my favorite sporting gun but it wasn't designed for that. Here are the features to watch out for. Ive been using benelli 828u for a few weeks now, and it is surprisingly fast and easy to use. My friend that I go to S.D. The pen is a very small, lightweight pen in a nice color. I like the unusual appearance, most people don't. It was the worst over under I've ever shot. I do, but no such luck, nothing on the website as in stock anyways, I'll call to double check. We liked the feel and looks of the checkering on both the pistol grip and the newly designed forearm. Have only shouldered one, never had a chance to shoot one. But have heard nothing but problems about the. Overall, our test team members were satisfied with that configuration. The 828U is not cocked by any system of rods or levers, but rather by the top lever itself. Culminating in the 1993 introduction of the Super Black Eagle, one of the first semi-automatics capable of firing 2", 3" and 3" shells, the Inertia Drive system proved reliable to a fault throughout two-and-a-half decades of service in a series of models. A. . The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. Also, for the $$, there's a lot of quality gun options competing with it. You don't want opinions on the gun, but that's the truth. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Time will tell. The recent release of the Browning Citori Model 725 Field seemed to be perfect timing for the head-to-head competition. They do support the Franchi line, which isn't exactly an endorsement. It then recocks the strikers and resets the automatic safety unless a spring steel clip (below, l.) is removed. Plus, there are some markets not open to semi-automatics, such as Australia, that we wanted to enterto expand and add an additional horse to the team. He said the gun was initially conceived as being less for competitive clays shooters and more for general sporting and hunting customers. Ive been using this pen for several months now (since November or so). The stocks exhibit figure and also have fish scale checkering in panels on the fore-end and pistol grip. If anyone that owns a benelli says they dont like the 828U they have deeper issues than we should get into on rockslide. Both versions have sold very poorly and have had issues. It was about as loon as my A400 xcel reciever, balance from what I remember felt so so, it didn't fit me at all, and it felt like it swung light, as a field gun should or would. JavaScript is disabled. Both the Modified and Improved Cylinder tubes delivered just under 40 percent of the strikes within a 20-inch circle around the center of the targets. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. True to Vignarolis characterizations, the 828U proved to be a very dependable gun and ejection of spent hulls was in fact very energetic. Everyone who shot the gun had positive things to say about its neutral balance, ease of pointing and light weight. A 60/40 pattern is 3 inches high, a 70/30 pattern is 6 inches high at 40 yards. Recoil with the Browning using the two light loads was well within the comfortable range, and spent shells were ejected with authority each and every time there were no malfunctions of any kind. However, 76 percent of the total hits in the 30-inch circle were in the lower left quadrant and there were four, 3-inch holes in the pattern, mainly in the outer 10-inch ring. *What is the (approx) street price for a new 828u Sport? Connecting with birds under such conditions can be a challenge, and it requires a gun that points naturally, swings fast and predictably and is capable of shooting tight patterns. the past 2 yrs. My buddy bought one for a retirement present for himself. A few media representatives were let in on the then-secret project during a mid-year 2013 trip to Italy, where they were asked to contribute ideas about what a new and different Benelli should be. When innovation and inspiration collided the 828U was born - the first over/under worthy of the Benelli badge. http://gundogcentral.com/view_pedigree.php?pedigreeID=84414&sireID=0&damID=0&generations=5, http://gundogcentral.com/view_pedigree.php?pedigreeID=84853&sireID=0&damID=0&generations=5. I am also hoping that the colors they are using are a more accurate match to my pen. The problem is, it is a very large pen that you have to get up really high to hold the nib in place while typing. As far as technology is concerned, the Benelli 828U Shotgun stands out from the crowd with the help of next generation of recoil reduction and progressive comfort; custom fit with the QuadraFit Buttstock and Custom Fit Stock that is adjustable drop and cast; and Crio system for more uniform pattern. We had plenty of semi-automatics, so we wanted to go in a complementary sector by adding a product that would match the needs of other Benelli customers, said Vignaroli. It's an overly complicated gun. The Benelli does beat the weight issue, at some cost IMHO. I personally have doubts about it holding up to heavy shells and shooting at volume. Problem w/ most Field O/U is the aluminum actions don't hold up to heavy shells and shooting a lot and its hard to build a field gun w/ a steel receiver under 7.5lbs. The 828U and it's sporting counterpart are simply ill designed for heavy sporting use. They have sold so few new ones there simply aren't many on the street.Look on Gun Broker. I tried the 828U a couple months ago. She appreciated the buttpad for not hanging up on clothing, liked the matte finish of the carbon-fiber rib and pointed out that the removable breech block would make cleaning easier. But their final question was telling: What is the proper balance between tradition and innovation? The groups consensus advice, he said, was that Benelli must stay true to character. I had the opportunity to shoot a guys Benelli 828 12 ga. at some clays yesterday. Posts must be somewhat related to firearms and must comply with the Global Reddit Rules. Been loving this game since 01. This pen is currently only available for $39.95 at benelli.com, and it is available in 16 different colors. Want more gun reviews? Benelli 828u Sport - First Look Review - NEW 2019 1,027,956 views Jan 25, 2019 The Benelli 828u Sport has just been delivered to us. Performance & security by Cloudflare. It is no stretch to suggest that the new gun offers appealing aesthetics, innovative engineering, precise manufacturing, intuitive handling and satisfying shootability. I have a Beretta 686 for example. It fit me very well (needed to switch to a lower drop shim). The solid carbon-fiber rib is another potentially customizable component, requiring only the loosening of a single screw for removal. Even with the light loads used in the testing, recoil was significantly more noticeable than with shots fired in the Browning. It utilizes Benelli's innovative Progressive Comfort Stock. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The most notable difference is that the 828 features a floating steel breech block within its' aluminum receiver. The 828U differs in a couple of important respects. It is a great pen, and I really like it. You should make sure the barrel lug is seating firmly on the pivot pin before closing. The 828Us price, too, is not out of line considering the quality of the guns construction and the adaptability that it allows shooters of differing physiques. The First Benelli 828u video of UK Stock and we thought. I am not asking for opinions on this gun, though of course I respect any opinions that are posted here. Such is the case with the new Benelli Model 828U that made a big splash at the January 2015 SHOT Show. In a classic example of premature innovation, we found the new Benelli 828U simply did not function, feel, or perform as well as a veteran Browning Citori 725 when fired head to head. Benellis Over/Under Shotgun Cant Beat Browning, Low profile silver nitride, with roll engraving, Grade II/III checkered walnut, gloss oil finish. I shot 50 rounds and was impressively sore. Benelli says that they subjectively estimate the felt-recoil reduction at around 30 percent. And that brings up another major point in describing how the 828U is different from traditional over-unders. Beretta A400 Xcel "Black" Cole Special - Beretta A400 Xcel 20 Gauge - Beretta A400 28 Gauge -. Was a surprise to see him with it as he typically shoots a Perazzi. The modified choke in the top barrel produced a 39-61 percent pattern, with 306 hits (46 percent) in the 20-inch circle around the center. Should not take a lot of force to snap closed. Shooting just a little high is exactly what a field shotgun should do to handle rising targets. 712 shot shells at a range of 30 yards, we found the Modified choke in the top barrel produced a 57-43 percent pattern (57 percent above the center and 43 percent below) and the Improved Cylinder choke in the bottom barrel produced a 62-38 percent pattern. You must log in or register to reply here. The shotgun just does not have the feel and look of a standard over-and-under. We have patterned several Browning shotguns featuring the Invector DS (Double Seal) chokes and found the tubes seem to pattern very well. We found the Browning hit targets hard when the shooter puts the pattern in the right place at the right time. The 828U is a lightweight gunimportant for a long session of upland hunting in which it is likely to be carried much more of the time than it is shotbut it is the distribution of the weight. Utilizing an inertia trigger system that requires the firing of the first barrel to engage the second, the Model 828U triggers touched off at 4.5 pounds for the bottom barrel and 4 pounds for the top. At this point, its worth noting that the 828U was designed for easy access to its breech. I pulled the auto safety as well. On another thread someone mentioned that street price for a new 828U Sport was already in the $3300 range. However, I once shot a CG O/U a few times and had to have one. Im hoping that my new pen is just like that. Vignaroli used the term global comfort to describe the 828Us combination of weight, balance and ergonomics. It may not display this or other websites correctly. With that being said, every gun I have bought I have shot beforehand, so it would be uncharacteristic for me to buy one without trying it, though it is clear there aren't many of these around. I bought an 828U Sport May 2019 - 30" tubes, travelled some distance to buy one with a decent bit of wood - some of them look like they have stocks made from reclaimed pallets. How Different Is It?Described dispassionately, the 828U is simply a wood-stocked over-under shotgun built around an aluminum receiver. This is a simple function of physics; a lighter gun will deliver more recoil momentum to the shooters shoulder than a heavier gun. So maybe nearer 10,000 shells down the tubes and an intermittent problem has appeared when the gun is warm - the bottom barrel fails to fire, all I hear is that faintest of clicks - rather than the typical sound of a triggered firing pin, the primer of the shell is untouched (have eliminated low primers, changed brand of shell to no avail), when cool it's back to . Poor gun fit increases felt recoil, and insufficient drop is the main culprit, but the 828's three-tiered shim system lets you go from 42.5mm to 65mm of drop in 2.5mm increments until you get the perfect fit. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. Gun Value Conditions explained: New in box - 100% condition in unopened box. Not a single hiccup. But Is It Really That Good?Prior to going afield with the 828U in South Dakota, our party of writers had the opportunity to try it on machine-thrown clays launched off a bluff at the ranch, which overlooks the scenic Missouri River Valley. He offered me his new 828 field ? - Benelli. The surprising part, though, was how nonintrusively it had done so. While pump-action and semiautomatic shotguns are the overwhelming favorite field guns throughout the shooting community, over/unders are the kings of clay-target shooters. Instead I have a set of four rather specific questions that I think are appropriate to ask to the group of (knowledgeable) strangers on this forum. The construction of the barrel assembly is fairly unconventional. of No. It has a nice weight and balance, and has a battery that lasts up to 3 hours. I've seen/read a LOT more dissatisfied comments and very few positive ones. These dimensions are right on the average mark for an out-of-the-box shotgun, and our various team members had no problems adjusting to the fit. Crio -treated chokes in C, IC, M, IM, and F are also included. The internal recoil system did nothing for me, although I have had 4 shoulder surgeries. Make one with a steel receiver, adjustable rib 30" and 32" barrels, improve the trigger a little bit, and get rid the funky comb and people would be breaking down their door to buy one. I actually bought one for my daughter, she probably shot 100 rounds through it on the Skeet field, it was too light for her, odd, she is a whopping 110 lbs., she ended up liking my old 325 the best, that is what she is shooting. It was one of the early models, so hopefully Benelli has that . A plain top lever lies just ahead of the safety along the left side. The shotguns length of pull was 14.25 inches, with a drop at the comb of 1 58 inches and a drop at the heel of 2.5 inches. Required fields are marked *. Why are you disassembling it so often? I am wondering if anyone can give me insight as to what I am doing wrong? Same ejection problems and GMK unable to fix (not their fault - they didn't manufacture the thing). Maybe it's not beautiful in every way, but the ability to adjust this firearm makes it a fine choice for . Along the way, it earned the respect of a new generation of hardcore duck and goose hunters beset by the same kind of weather and environmental conditions that had caused their fathers to rely on pump guns.
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